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lucifer1101 Offline
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First App Tutorial
The "First App Tutorial" is now online and can be viewed here

tell me what you think.

more pictures
better explantions
anything missed
not working

is anybody here getting an mt.exe error cuz i can fix it by running the app and the compiling again...

Im an official Esenthel Nooblet
12-27-2008 03:19 AM
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craksy Offline
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didnt read it all through but this chatced my eye:

Quote:Alright first bit of info, to use the engine properly you will need to include some of its files
by using the #include "FILE", lets do this now
who would attempt to make a game, without knowing this? this is basic C++ knowledge

and:
Quote:stdafx.h is the main Esenthel Engine File, it links to all the little ones

its not the main Esenthel engine file... its the main header file of most C++ projects (in visual studio at least).
also it only links to the "EsenthelEngine.h" ...

i know it should be easy to understand for newbies (like me), and it should but pretty basic.... but this is a little too basic :/

ill read the rest through later, and then give you some C&C smile

EDIT:
noticed one thing more:
Quote:all that D.clear does is - D stands for draw and clear we know what that does. Simple wasnt it.
D stands for Display wink

not that its that important, but it would be sad if you misguided new ppl pfft
12-27-2008 08:44 AM
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Esenthel Offline
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Re: First App Tutorial
nicely done smile there are some errors just as Craksy pointed out
I'm thinking of doing something similar, officially on Esenthel wiki
I've created it yesterday <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.esenthel.com/wiki">http://www.esenthel.com/wiki</a><!-- m -->
but haven't got time yet to make some content on it
I'll work it out soon
12-27-2008 11:34 AM
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lucifer1101 Offline
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Re: First App Tutorial
corrected those mistakes, i uncluded newbie stuff because i used to have no idea where i was going and i used irrlicht and didnt even get my first program working.
I eventually figured out little problems and got it working, but i still did not understand most of the functions.

My mind isnt built for programming and isnt easy to learn either, i have been trying for a couple of yours now and have given up soo many times. I just want to be able to understand most of whats going on...

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12-27-2008 12:45 PM
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craksy Offline
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kinda the same with me...
i just love programming, and when i first get started with a project, i get so excitet about learning more about it...
game making was actually what got me into programming at first! i realised that if i wanted to make a game i would get around programming, so i started learning vb.net pfft
taught me the basics, and later on i started on C++, which i made apps in, for a while, untill i saw Esenthel Engine and thaught i would check it out smile

anyway, my point is that people proberly should make some "hello world" stuff, and basic apps before they start doing something like this.
you cant teach ppl, basic C++ and how to use the engine on the same time pfft
if ppl dont understand something, they should go and make some basic stuff, and then come back when they understands it
thats what i do, when i find something i dont understand (which actually happens quite often -.-')

anyway, great tutorial grin
nice for beginners to get a sorta detailed explanation, about the different functions, when they are called, and what you should put in there!

i really like this whole wiki project, and would really like to contribute, but i dont really know what to make a tutorial about pfft
any ideas? anything you think i could help with?
12-27-2008 02:01 PM
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lucifer1101 Offline
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Re: First App Tutorial
well i have actually started turning the code samples into real tutorials (no offence Esenthel), maybe you could do the one of the more advanced ones like camera controls or sound...

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12-27-2008 11:49 PM
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craksy Offline
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yea, ill see if i can get it done soon... may not be camera or sound, since that not something i know much about for my self, but ill see if i can get something done grin

i have never made a tutorial before though... it may not be so good :/
12-28-2008 12:25 AM
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lucifer1101 Offline
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i have only made a couple o tutorials, just make sure you explain what is going on and put pictures in where needed

p.s. ima gunna take your advice and go and learn some C++ properly

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12-28-2008 12:30 AM
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craksy Offline
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i wasnt talking about you pfft
i was talking about people on a low level of programming in general smile
not that i am a pro my self... far from!

anyway, started to extend the character tutorial... currently in notepad, because i dont know how to use the editing thingy in the wiki :oops:

but you may have to help me with some spelling and grammar, when i am done.
12-28-2008 01:09 AM
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lucifer1101 Offline
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well if you want you can just send it to me and i can put it in, i am currently adding in alot of other infor for the wiki

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12-28-2008 01:15 AM
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craksy Offline
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cool grin

it would be easier for me to make it in a "real" editor smile
12-28-2008 01:18 AM
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craksy Offline
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i am almost done with my extention of the character tutorial!
i just have a question:
LightDir(1,Cam.matrix.z).set();

first of am i right that the power of the light, is a float value between 0 and 1, where one is the brightest/most powerfull?

and secondly: what does Cam.matrix.z actually mean?
hope you can help! this is the last thing i need, and i am done with the tutorial smile

thanks grin
12-29-2008 05:50 AM
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Esenthel Offline
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Quote:first of am i right that the power of the light, is a float value between 0 and 1, where one is the brightest/most powerfull?
yes, for LightDir it is 0..1 range

Quote:and secondly: what does Cam.matrix.z actually mean?
Matrix has 3 orientation vectors (x-right, y-up, z-forward) and one position vector (pos)
its more or less described in "geometry/matrix" tutorial
so Cam.matrix.z is the 'z' vector of an matrix (which is forward) so putting it together its the forward vector of a camera which is the _direction where the camera is looking_
12-29-2008 06:24 PM
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conkitten Offline
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Where are all these tutorials at? I cant seem to find anything other than the helpful info on the wiki. Lucifer's links are taking me to a broken site :(
08-06-2012 12:04 AM
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Tottel Offline
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Considering this thread is 4 years old.. yeah.. pfft
08-06-2012 12:35 PM
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