Hi,

I'm searching a good engine for make an MMOFPS.
My artists love EE's tools, and i love C++.

After i've tested and read tutorials, Bloddy Massacre and MMO sample source.
I'm very interesting by make a one year old project with EE.

But, i'm not sure if EE can provide all the services to do it well.

1 - I need UDP reliable (i can use Raknet) but how use behavior area network system without EE connections then ?
2 - I need server side physics and IA, in fact i use a fully authoritative server, Basically the client only send their command (user input) instead data (position...).
The server handle the command, simulates the world (physically and logically) , and send back datas to concerned clients.

More informations here

My curent prototype is here made with Ogre3D and RakNet.

But i really want go to Esenthel engine if he can suit my needs !

(Sorry for my english i'm french )

I'm not really a developer but afaik Esenthel developers already made MMO's on it, so i see no reason why you wouldn't be able to make the same, see the engine Main Website for examples.

I'm talking about MMOFPS not about MMORPG (it's quite different), i didn't find any informations about online FPS or MMOFPS made with Esenthel...

It really isn't that different.

(07-27-2013 09:15 AM)Letesteur Wrote:  I'm talking about MMOFPS not about MMORPG (it's quite different), i didn't find any informations about online FPS or MMOFPS made with Esenthel...

The MMO part of an MMOFPS is not much different to an MMORPG... I'd even go as far to say its simpler due to less information needed to be transferred over the net.

2 - I need server side physics and IA, in fact i use a fully authoritative server, Basically the client only send their command (user input) instead data (position...).
The server handle the command, simulates the world (physically and logically) , and send back datas to concerned clients.

I've heard Esenthel canot run physic under server, it is real ?

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Yeah but MMOFPS need abolutely UDP instead MMORPG run very well under TCP

EE 1.0 worked with Raknet, so EE 2.0 will as well, it will just require a different setup process. My game is not multiplayer, so I haven't messed with the networking code, but it does look like EE supports UDP connections.
And I don't see any issue with running physics server side. EE doesn't care if you are running a server, a client, or other; if you activate the physics system, it will have physics. It's just a different beast from client-side physics.

Letesteur, you should know that most MMOs only use TCP for some things in their core, and there is no need for pure UDP for an MMOFPS. There are a few places where TCP can be used, and in most games anyway UDP is used.

and saying MMORPG run very well under TCP is a great simplification, a game like WoW surely can and do use TCP, but depending on what the RPG part contains/does not contain varies greatly.

and yes Esenthel can run physics on server.

Thank you for that great answer and support !

So, i think i will use RakNet.
But the mmo built'in feature is implemented by the Esenthel connection class, isn't it ?

You can check out the Net tutorials and the .h files in the Esenthel Engine/Net folder. They are pretty good at answering the basic questions.

Yeah thank you.
But Esenthel Connection.h does'nt suit my need, in fact it is pretty poor...

I think the best choice is to use RakNet with EE Net::Obj and Net::World to manage Raknet's Game Object Replication with Essenthel's Neighboors to save bandwitch

Thank you i will search for EE/Raknet Integration

Ok, then the physique and logic can be run on the server and i can use raknet, its nice.
But i've read the "server side pathfinding" is not already possible, it is true ?

It's not built in, but it's completely possible.

Keep in mind that Esenthel is a fairly basic engine. It has physics and pathfinding and such, but it's completely up to you whether to or even if you implement them. This means that a lot of stuff will take some extra work, but on the flip side, it gives you far more freedom to implement as you want.

I completely understand. Thank you Rubeus for that explanation.

But i'm little busy, the fact is i am the leader of 6 members's team. And i can't pay 1200 USD if i'm dont sure this engine is the best ( Feature / price ) for develop our game.

(07-29-2013 11:37 PM)aceio76 Wrote:  What costs $1200?

I guess he means 6 licenses for his group (teamwork) because he has said they are 6

so 6 * 200$ makes the result